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#33070 - 01/10/11 03:38 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Thumper]
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Among others, he killed a 9 year old girl and three elderly women. I hope he is proud of himself.

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#33071 - 01/10/11 04:30 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: FUBAR]
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She was born Sept. 11, 2001.

The shooter deserves to die!
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#33072 - 01/10/11 04:42 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Thumper]
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I agree with you on a micro level. Looking specifically at this domestic terrorist, there is no evidence that Palin or Beck's rhetoric had any effect. But, on a macro level putting bullseyes on a map and telling your lemmings not to "retreat bur reload!" can't be helpful.
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#33074 - 01/10/11 05:09 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Stash]
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It takes two to tango, both side have raise the heat up.
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#33075 - 01/10/11 05:19 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Thumper]
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I'm glad you see the problem. I was needlessly worried for a bit.
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#33078 - 01/10/11 06:20 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Stash]
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Originally Posted By: Stash
I agree with you on a micro level. Looking specifically at this domestic terrorist, there is no evidence that Palin or Beck's rhetoric had any effect. But, on a macro level putting bullseyes on a map and telling your lemmings not to "retreat bur reload!" can't be helpful.


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#33079 - 01/10/11 06:22 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Stash]
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Originally Posted By: Stash
It's just a coinkydink that she took her Bulls eye target off Arizona and Rep. Gifford's district. Yep... no evidence at all.

Think she'll put it back up? Wanna bet?


They'll first need to edit it to reflect only 19 crosshairs.
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#33080 - 01/10/11 06:31 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Lumberjack]
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They'll first need to edit it to reflect only 19 crosshairs.


No she won't. I think Palin is woefully ignorant, but she's not stupid. Or, she's stupid like a fox. Her brand was significantly tarnished by this tragedy. She took it down and, I'll bet it's down for good. Now, she'll think how she can make a few more bucks from Rupert and FAUX News, and how to turn it into another book.
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#33081 - 01/10/11 06:32 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Originally Posted By: Bogus_bill
From all I have heard the shooter was nuts. There are a lot of questions but this one will probably be nailed down to nothing other than mental illness however:

How would his mental illness have manifested itself without the Glen Becks and our political climate?



I think you've hit the nail on the head. Talking about "watering the tree of liberty" and "second amendment remedies" and "I want (my constituents) armed and dangerous." Is lighting a fire that burns indiscriminately.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/113176989.html

I also think there's also something to be said for better mental health intervention.
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#33083 - 01/10/11 07:11 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Lumberjack]
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Predictably, it's "just another nutjob here" and "the rhetoric is heated on both sides."

Bullsh*t. There is no moral equivalency between calling attention to someone's crimes--q.v. Cheney and Rumsfeld and the several international law enforcement agencies trying to pick up the slack for the American failure to live up to UN charter obligations--and putting the crosshairs of a gun on someone while calling for "second amendment remedies."

Isn't it interesting how we hear this "moral equivalency" crap again and again, and yet it's people on the left getting shot...again?
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