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#33134 - 01/11/11 08:58 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Lumberjack]
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During the 2008 campaign Obama said, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we'll bring a gun.”
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#33135 - 01/11/11 08:59 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Thumper]
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Originally Posted By: Thumper
Question for me is, would Mike still have said the same thing about the map if the shootings didn't happen?


I can't say for certain. I do know there was no mistaking them for anything other than the inside of a scope, so there's a good chance I would have thought them to be in poor taste.

My question for you is, why does it bother you so that I commented on them after the fact? Were my comments so far off base? Did I cry out for her head on a platter? Did I call out for censorship?

I merely point out that it was in poor judgment, especially when taken with the rest of their "reload" message. I would think that someone on her team, being paid big piles of cash to be all smart 'n stuff, might have taken the time to consider the political implications/cost of what could easily be spun as a call to violence, and advised her against it.

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Complaining now will not change the past.


Again, I'm not complaining, I'm commenting. There really is a difference.

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If you outlaw crosshairs, what will be next?


At what point in this did I ever suggest outlawing crosshairs?
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#33136 - 01/11/11 09:00 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Bogus_bill]
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Originally Posted By: Bogus_bill
[The symbolism looks lousy but I don't believe that in any way she meant cross hairs to have anything to do with actual guns.


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#33137 - 01/11/11 09:01 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Thumper]
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Originally Posted By: Thumper
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During the 2008 campaign Obama said, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we'll bring a gun.”


Oooh, the black guy used the word "gun"! Clearly he must be equally culpable. Clearly.
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#33138 - 01/11/11 10:01 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: mdean]
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My question for you is, why does it bother you so that I commented on them after the fact? Were my comments so far off base? Did I cry out for her head on a platter? Did I call out for censorship?


Because now, after the fact, it is too easy to say she should not have used the crosshairs. Hunting and combat terms are used all the time in politics, and I don't think you can say the crosshairs were bad but the use of targets is OK. Google the term "taking aim politics" and see what comes up.

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#33139 - 01/11/11 10:06 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Thumper]
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Originally Posted By: Thumper
During the 2008 campaign Obama said, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we'll bring a gun.”


In hindsight, I bet President Obama wishes he would have used that expression, huh? However, there is no moral equivalence between Obama's comment and some of those cited on the Wrong Wing. Clearly, Obama's was "rhetoric" in that "the wrong wing nutbars are talking about us like this so we need to point out this stuff about them!". While Sharon Angle has yet to make a coherent spin about her "Second Amendment Remedies". I bet she would run away from the cameras even faster now that someone has attempted to do that.

I'll give Palin a pass on her map in that I truly don't think she wanted anyone hurt. But, I think everyone will be a little more careful with their choice of words.
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#33140 - 01/11/11 10:09 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Stash]
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I think everyone will be a little more careful with their choice of words.


Let's hope so!
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#33141 - 01/11/11 10:13 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Stash]
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Edited by Thumper (01/11/11 11:40 PM)
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#33143 - 01/11/11 11:28 PM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Thumper]
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I meant, "wouldn't have used".
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#33145 - 01/12/11 02:46 AM Re: Sign of things to come? [Re: Stash]
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Any of you catch Chrissy Matthews yesterday on Hardball? He amuses me. Yesterday he was stuck on “there is not a country in any continent in the world that’s had this kind of history of assassination like we’ve had."

Had to LOL when Judson Phillips off-handedly told Matthews he didn't think that was true. Matthews looked dumb-founded and irritated that he would be questioned on his "fact". He repeated it.

psssst...Chris, off the top of my head: Nigeria. {{cringe}}
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