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#75838 - 11/27/16 07:16 AM Young Mayors
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Jasmine and Larson seem to be on track. What say you?
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#75848 - 11/29/16 01:34 AM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Stash]
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I don't know about Jasmine, but find it amusing that Mayor Larson is flouting the city's panhandling ordinance by hitting up the city for money for a police rifle range, at least $100,000 a year to pay someone to do his part time job full time and the city, county and state for 8 million dollars to build a Gateway Center.

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#75853 - 11/30/16 05:34 AM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Geezer]
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Originally Posted By: Geezer
I don't know about Jasmine, but find it amusing that Mayor Larson is flouting the city's panhandling ordinance by hitting up the city for money for a police rifle range, at least $100,000 a year to pay someone to do his part time job full time and the city, county and state for 8 million dollars to build a Gateway Center.


Are you against a fire arm training place for law enforcement? I assume you're opposed to a City Administrator. I think it has been quite beneficial for Hoquiam. I don't have an opinion on the Gateway Center. I am amused at the antics on the County Commission.
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#75857 - 11/30/16 09:31 AM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Stash]
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No and No, however the juxtaposition of the Millennial Mayor, cup in hand, soliciting money far and wide while the city has in place a panhandling ordinance is damn amusing. Question, where has it been good enough for the cops to practice shooting for the past decades? City Administrator? My only experience has been with the arrogant a-hole in Hoquiam. Looking for an unemployed or disenchanted administrator willing to move to Aberdeen reminds me of the situation that brought Aberdeen the last public works director.

Basically, though, my sense is that Aberdeen has more pressing needs than an 8 milling dollar palace (replete with Tesla charging stations) in order to blow smoke up passing wazoos.

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#75869 - 12/01/16 10:02 PM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Geezer]
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Basically, though, my sense is that Aberdeen has more pressing needs than an 8 milling dollar palace (replete with Tesla charging stations) in order to blow smoke up passing wazoos.


Basically, I agree with you but I watch them spending money on statues and parks here in Mexico that are there for centuries and give them the atmosphere that people want to be around. I am not sure Tesla will be around though.
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#75870 - 12/02/16 01:14 AM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Bogus_bill]
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It all comes together to create the attractive atmosphere needed to spark tourism and development but, still, should the Gateway Center materialize first, the visual would be like an implant in a meth mouth.

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#75871 - 12/02/16 01:47 AM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Geezer]
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It all comes together to create the attractive atmosphere needed to spark tourism and development


I think the downtown looks okay. The people on the street laying under blankets sparks a romp on the accelerator to get away from the place.
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#75873 - 12/02/16 07:51 AM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Bogus_bill]
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I think the downtown looks okay.


You're too charitable.

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#75874 - 12/02/16 11:06 AM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Geezer]
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Originally Posted By: Geezer
Question, where has it been good enough for the cops to practice shooting for the past decades?


The present range is near Lake Aberdeen. It's not good enough, it's prone to landslides.

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Basically, though, my sense is that Aberdeen has more pressing needs than an 8 milling dollar palace (replete with Tesla charging stations) in order to blow smoke up passing wazoos.


This too, shall pass. Two years ago it was a waterfront park. Before that it was the Morck Hotel, before that it was the Historical Seaport.


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#75876 - 12/02/16 09:59 PM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Wally B]
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...the Historical Seaport? One of the few times Aberdeen had a dream and it became a reality. Remarkable in a community of intellectual inbreeding.

Mayor Larson is faced with a town suffering from 30+ years of stagnation and decay. Nothing that a lot of money couldn't cure. I wish him luck and want to see him succeed but wonder about what seems like a errant start.

To my way of thinking, Aberdeen needs a Sewer Socialist as mayor.

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#75879 - 12/02/16 11:22 PM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Geezer]
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...the Historical Seaport? One of the few times Aberdeen had a dream and it became a reality.


I disagree. The original plan was for a working shipyard / museum at the mouth of the Wishkah. There were to be two replica ships, the Lady Washington and the Columbia Rediviva. The "Historical Seaport" was supposed to bring tourists and their $$ to Aberdeen. What we got was traveling attraction for California and Oregon.

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#75880 - 12/03/16 02:48 AM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Wally B]
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I'm well aware of the original plan, having served as chairman of the board during the projects darkest moment when it was thought bankruptcy would be the outcome. How it got there is an interesting story. Suffice to say a cast of characters and well intentioned community leaders got it to that point.

However, after years of Les Bolton's efforts, the project was making progress toward a semblance of what it was meant to be.
Les is gone and I wish the present staff and leadership luck in taking the project toward the original goal.

By the way, how many times must it be explained that, for the time being, without the supporting project infrastructure as envisioned, the Lady Washington cannot by herself attract the volume of business necessary and therefore must travel extensively to pay the bills?





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#75881 - 12/03/16 08:10 AM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Geezer]
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for the time being, without the supporting project infrastructure as envisioned, the Lady Washington cannot by herself attract the volume of business necessary


You didn't need to explain that to me. The lack of "supporting project infrastructure" is why I say the dream has not become reality.

Going back to the original vision, how many paying visitors a year were needed to support the operation?

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#75882 - 12/03/16 09:56 PM Re: Young Mayors [Re: Wally B]
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Actually, I don't need to explain anything to you. The vision evident to me is that of you beating a dead horse.

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